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By: Stubbleblog » Blog Archive » 164 Things

Stubbleblog » Blog Archive » 164 Things — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:54:11 +0000

[...] writing 22. The Real Lessons from Twitter 23. Things I don’t get (about the event industry) 24. Desiging the ultimate contact form in [...]

By: Jelly Jealousy (38.100.52.196)

Jelly Jealousy (38.100.52.196) — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:41:40 +0000

Dude, you’re pathetic. Stop taking credit for starting Twitter when you didn’t. You’re just jealous that you went off and started Crowdvine while Biz, Ev and Jack got all the glory.

By: The Real Lessons From Twitter and it an Evolving Architecture

The Real Lessons From Twitter and it an Evolving Architecture — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:47:56 +0000

[...] The Real Lessons From Twitter If you were thrown into a fight, would you start punching or would you open up your iphone and start browsing web pages about Karate? : [...]

By: What’s Twitter Good For? The Twitter Book « Hans de Zwart: Technology as a Solution…

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:08:24 +0000

[...] after this, you are still a Twitter nay-sayer, I would suggest you take a look at this Tony Stubblebine post, where he explains that one of the things that he has learnt from Twitter is to assume that a [...]

By: Tony Stubblebine

Tony Stubblebine — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:30:47 +0000

@Matt Well, I used “web based” as a caveat below and I should have used it there.

By: matt mcknight

matt mcknight — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:21:18 +0000

I like this bit best: “Without Rails, we might not have even given Jack time to finish the prototype.”

Don’t you think iTunes perhaps could lay claim to being the only podcast directory of note?

By: links for 2009-06-19 | mad dog in the fog

links for 2009-06-19 | mad dog in the fog — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:11:23 +0000

[...] Stubbleblog » Blog Archive » The Real Lessons From Twitter "Have you ever looked at a piece of social software and thought, or worse, blogged, that it was worthless? Here’s a trick for evaluating social software in a way that isn’t going to make you look stupid six months down the road: assume it’s valuable if people are using it. Then try to figure out what value they’re getting." (tags: twitter startup entrepreneurship) [...]

By: Julie Hamwood

Julie Hamwood — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:49:04 +0000

I couldn’t get the Chris Sacca link to work. Here’s another link to the same piece http://bit.ly/mDdXL

By: Tony Stubblebine

Tony Stubblebine — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:25:59 +0000

@Chris you were way ahead of the curve on understanding how to evaluate social software. That was a good post and good explanation, twitter was better because it stayed out of your way.

@Greg we had good patient investors (as far as I could tell). But even so, it’s hard to tell them “we have no idea, so we’re just going to experiment.”

By: Greg Battle

Greg Battle — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:18:12 +0000

I’d argue that yes, a great team matters most with a flexible enough mandate from investors/stakeholders to adapt to the markets and iteratively develop the best product. Plain and simple, hubris-filled inertia kills teams’ ability to be objective about results vs. ideas and conflicting investor interest/control undermines flexibility. If your investors are more excited about the product and market rather than your team, they are not the right investors for you and will shackle you to chase the trend.

By: Chris Sacca

Chris Sacca — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:11:12 +0000

Hey Tony,

Enjoyed the read. The TC comparison of Dodgeball and Twitter reminded me of a post I wrote in 2006 about why I Twittered:
http://bit.ly/q9x3E

For me, it came down to Twitter’s lack of specificity and rigidity in its use compared to Dodgeball.

By: Tony Stubblebine

Tony Stubblebine — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:55:21 +0000

Glenn, it was hard. I wonder, is it ever easy?

By: Glenn Kelman

Glenn Kelman — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:47:52 +0000

I’ve always been fascinated at how Twitter grew out of Odeo, mostly because it’s so hard to keep it together under the stress of the initial idea struggling in the marketplace. You guys must be a really tight crew. Hats off.

By: dave mcclure

dave mcclure — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:31:39 +0000

great piece tony.

and I agree eric Ries & Steve blank are leading a revolution in thinking about web software design & marketing. count me among the faithful too :)

By: Tony Stubblebine

Tony Stubblebine — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:53:07 +0000

@David Thanks for the kind words and good luck with your venture. Is it sports related?

By: Tony Stubblebine

Tony Stubblebine — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:37:39 +0000

@mlstotts if it helps you visualize, we were in a former office of Joe Boxer, right on South Park (a hidden park in the SF South of Market area). We did our scrum planning on a fifty foot white board and we had an amazingly comfortable pink chair (pink was one of the odeo colors).

@Tim The other pre-Odeo projects on that list are Tim with Bigstep, Biz with Xanga, Ev with Blogger, Jack with his courier dispatch startup (which was funded), and Jeremy’s tattoo parlor.

You’re right that they were interesting to manage, but I also feel like I never got the chance because we never truly had a direction.

By: Assume there’s value | Ben Werdmuller

Assume there’s value | Ben Werdmuller — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:24:17 +0000

[...] Stubblebine has written a great post about the lessons he’s learned from Twitter, which was created at Odeo while he was working there. This advice stands out for me: Have you ever [...]

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By: alan p

alan p — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:16:19 +0000

Nice post! We knew it was Twitters back-end btw, but then we are infrastructure layer guys.

Our view fwiw is that it was better to get a service up and running and get enough traction for funding than pay for the early costs of serious back-end work because, as you note, its quite hard to predict in advance what it will need to do.

By: Ted Rheingold

Ted Rheingold — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:08:54 +0000

Thanks for sharing. Best continued success with CrowdVine.